The Official NBA Thread: Mavs v Celtics in the NBA Finals

[Methodical Management]

I thought they didn't have any Firsts... I could be reading this wrong though I suppose

In 2025, 2027, and 2029, the Suns’ first round picks will be conveyed to Brooklyn outright as part of the Kevin Durant trade. They won’t have a first round selection in those years.

They have swap agreements in place for their 2024, 2026, and 2028 first round picks.

This year, for example, their pick will be less favorable than Washington and Memphis, as both of those teams are in the lottery. Neither team will exercise their swap rights and the Suns will retain their pick.

Even if they had a better pick than both of those teams, the Suns wouldn’t have been left without a first round pick entirely. They’d just be switching draft positions.

For the sake of argument, let’s say that the Wizards had the 24th overall pick this year, the Grizzlies had the 26th overall pick, and the Suns had the 22nd overall pick. Phoenix and Washington would agree to change places, giving Washington the Suns’ 22nd overall pick, and Phoenix the 24th overall pick. The Grizzlies, as part of a separate deal, would then have the right to swap for the position that had been Washington’s (the less favorable between their pick and the Suns original pick). This would leave Phoenix with the Grizzlies’ pick - the 26th overall.

This limits the Suns’ options, as they’d be unable to tank and rebuild through the lottery, but the oft-repeated claim that Phoenix has “no first round picks through 2030” is incorrect. They will still receive first round picks in those even-numbered swap years, but their pick would be further back in the draft IF they have a worse record than either the Wizards or Grizzlies.

Phoenix Suns Future Draft Pick Status

It's funny when meth actually tries to socialize

Your 5G thread was locked 4 years ago.

Get over it already.

 

[picasso swerve]

Wait it was a dead ball? So how is that a flagrant if it was a dead ball?

 

[brian8598]

SVG is right on this. BS call

 

[uncalled4boy]

Wait it was a dead ball? So how is that a flagrant if it was a dead ball?

#Magic.

 

[niketock88]

SVG is right on this. BS call

What? So you’re basically saying it’s a free-for-all after the whistle.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I thought the Celtics was already up 3-1

 

[ALNotSure]

Bam needs to be thrown out. The play is dead, let that man shoot the ball

nah.. unwritten rule.. you ain’t getting shots up

 

[picasso swerve]

What’s? So you’re basically saying it’s a free-for-all after the whistle.

How you gonna call a foul when the ball isnt in play. If anything a tech, not a foul let alone a flagrant.

 

[Kierris]

nah.. unwritten rule.. you ain’t getting shots up

It's the 21st century. These outdated unwritten rules need to die. Tatum could've been seriously hurt because of this unwritten rule.

 

[JD617]

Main goal of this series is just to make it through without the Heat injuring anyone.

Good attempt by Bam but it looks like Tatum is ok.

 

[niketock88]

How you gonna call a foul when the ball isnt in play. If anything a tech, not a foul let alone a flagrant.

with that same logic you saying it’s OK to punch someone in the face after the whistle? It’s a dead ball though right?

 

[Kierris]

How you gonna call a foul when the ball isnt in play. If anything a tech, not a foul let alone a flagrant.

"In basketball, a flagrant foul is a personal foul that involves excessive or violent contact that could injure the fouled player. A flagrant foul may be unintentional or purposeful"

 

[B Sox]

Unwritten rule that you can try to injure a player

 

[picasso swerve]

What that same logic you saying it’s OK to punch someone in the face after the whistle? It’s a dead ball though right?

No one saids its ok to do that, you cant call a foul when the play is dead. Tf is that.

 

[brian8598]

What? So you’re basically saying it’s a free-for-all after the whistle.

It's dead ball, after the foul had already been called. They don't call goal tending when someone shoots a shoot on a dead ball and someone on the other team blocks it right before it hits the rim. Why do the clear landing spot rules apply when the ball is dead?

 

[picasso swerve]

"In basketball, a flagrant foul is a personal foul that involves excessive or violent contact that could injure the fouled player. A flagrant foul may be unintentional or purposeful"

The play was dead, the ref blowed the whistle for something else. Its like calling a foul on someone taking a practice shot during a timeout.

 

[niketock88]

“ bam punched Tatum in the face for throwing up that shot… That’s Tatum’s fault” LOL

No one saids its ok to do that, you cant call a foul when the play is dead. Tf is that.

so what is the ref supposed to do if it’s a dead ball and bam punches Tatum in the face? Tell them to go to their corners? Obviously they’re gonna call something. Its no different..

 

[picasso swerve]

“ bam punched Tatum in the face for throwing up that shot… That’s Tatum’s fault” LOL

so what is the ref supposed to do if it’s a dead ball and bam punches Tatum in the face? Tell them to go to their corners? Obviously they’re gonna call something.

Yeah they gonna give em techs and then toss em not call a foul.

 

[Kierris]

The play was dead, the ref blowed the whistle for something else.

The official rulebook says nothing about a play being live or dead. A flagrant is simply contact deemed unnecessary by officials.


Flagrant Foul Penalty 1: Unnecessary contact committed by a player against an opponent

Source: https://official.nba.com/trigger/review-of-called-foul/

 

[picasso swerve]

The official rulebook says nothing about a play being live or dead. A flagrant is simply contact deemed unnecessary by officials.


Flagrant Foul Penalty 1: Unnecessary contact committed by a player against an opponent

Source: https://official.nba.com/trigger/review-of-called-foul/

So during a timeout if someone goes and clocks someone on the other teeam they gonna call a flagrant?

Cmon man.

 

[Kierris]

So during a timeout if someone goes and clocks someone on the other teeam they gonna call a flagrant?

Cmon man.

Depends... If a player is throwing up a shot during a timeout(which happens often) and an opposing player hits him in the head while trying to stop him then yes a flagrant, tech, or both will likely be called.

 

[Blue Mamba]

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[jpzx]

I’m full on cheering against the Pels jerseys tonight, and also full on cheering for the Lakers tonight.

 

[niketock88]

Also says Whether any other players committed unsportsmanlike acts immediately prior to and/or immediately following the foul.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I didn’t know how invested I’d be in this rule debate